Talk:You Shook Me
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[edit]Currently there are two infoboxes in this article. Because the article is quite short, the second one stretches the page down further and looks pretty bad. Another problem is that there are three notable versions of this song. Adding an infobox for Jeff Beck Group would make the first problem worse, but it would improve the quality of the article. Would it be better to add the Jeff Beck infobox or to have only the Muddy Waters one?
ufossuck 06:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]@Ojorojo: I uploaded File:You Shook Me by Muddy Waters US vinyl.png as free in Commons, intending to replace the EP cover art, which you uploaded. I wonder whether you would mind me doing so. I think an EP release is very separate from and doesn't truly identify a single release. -- George Ho (talk) 08:12, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hello George, it's been awhile. We've had a similar conversation or two before: we have different ideas about what is an appropriate image for an infobox. I chose the EP image because 1) the song title "You Shook Me" appears on the cover, 2) the large MUDDY WATERS and photo helps to immediately identify the artist, 3) the body of the article notes, "In the UK, Pye Records released these Muddy Waters/Earl Hooker songs on a four-song extended play 45 rpm record or "EP" in 1963. Reportedly, this EP was a favorite of then-teenagers Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page.[14]" Both later recorded versions of the song, so the song's inclusion on the EP is noteworthy.
- Also, I see that you changed the infobox for the Zeppelin version of "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You".[1] I don't see that this is appropriate. Template:Infobox song#type includes "If an album track was later released as a single, use the most notable or best known. For example, "Stairway to Heaven" was released as a promo single in several markets and as a digital single in 2007, but became best known as a song from Led Zeppelin's fourth album." Many US and UK album-only tracks are released as singles in foreign markets or are reissued as singles in various formats, however, these are not the "most notable or best known" and some are downright obscure. There is no source in the article for a Greek release date and it's mention is little more than trivia (like "The song appears in Episode 12 of the Blah Blah show"). I've reverted your edits. If you want, open an RfC on the issue.
- —Ojorojo (talk) 14:19, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Ojorojo: I see you reverted the change I made. May you dispute the rfu tag I added on File:LedZeppelin1969EP.jpg.png? Thanks. And where to start the RfC: the WikiProject Songs or an article talk page? --George Ho (talk) 15:25, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- @George Ho: Will do. Start at WT:SONGS. There are two different issues here and perhaps they should be discussed separately: 1) what to use for
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when there are different releases, and 2) should only an image be used that is described in the infobox? —Ojorojo (talk) 16:06, 12 August 2019 (UTC)- @George Ho: Holmes's "Dazed and Confused" is best-known as an album track, so I reverted. The fact that there was very limited distribution as a promo (typically to radio and press) doesn't warrant changing the type.
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is mostly used for more modern "promos" that are widely distributed and often difficult to distinguish from "singles" (this is sometimes done for chart, etc., purposes). Wait and see what comes out of the RfC(s) before changing more. Thanks. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:35, 12 August 2019 (UTC)- Started a pre-RfC discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs#Before starting an RfC on either "type" issue or image issue... George Ho (talk) 19:53, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- @George Ho: Holmes's "Dazed and Confused" is best-known as an album track, so I reverted. The fact that there was very limited distribution as a promo (typically to radio and press) doesn't warrant changing the type.
- @George Ho: Will do. Start at WT:SONGS. There are two different issues here and perhaps they should be discussed separately: 1) what to use for
- @Ojorojo: I see you reverted the change I made. May you dispute the rfu tag I added on File:LedZeppelin1969EP.jpg.png? Thanks. And where to start the RfC: the WikiProject Songs or an article talk page? --George Ho (talk) 15:25, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Rather than replace the image, I decided to add the side label as body instead. I re-researched and realized that the UK didn't receive the song as a single. George Ho (talk) 17:01, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
I also took an issue about another one of Led Zeppelin songs to Talk:Dazed and Confused (song). George Ho (talk) 09:09, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Nicky Hopkins
[edit]I think Nicky Hopkins deserves a mention for his contribution on piano to the Jeff Beck Group recording of the song, don't you? Johnalexwood (talk) 20:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)